>>1335

I'm funding my own life. He can take a hike.

I guess Ill start even though not much happened today.

Ordered some clothing online, I'm exciting to get them, so I have nice clothes and feel more comfortable for when I go outside.

Ah, I remember. Nice.

If I get a lottery win then i'll send out some plane tickets, hire a few cleaners and we'll have this. Not "thanksgiving" though, you stupid yanks. Bah.

Not that bad being a cleaner. I worked in housekeeping at a hospital and made 22.50 Canadian an hour, 8 hours a day (my pay was high since hospitals here are government run). It was unionized and had good benefits and job security. Sure, the work sucked. I didn't do much actual cleaning since I'm male, but I did some. I met very fun, intelligent people. Most were either hard working foreigners, university students, or just your regular working class person trying to support their families.

Look at it this way, every single person on earth starts off in life working shitty, unskilled, unrewarding jobs. Some may be cleaners or cashiers, but nobody does it forever. Save up what you can after your expenses, and look into enrolling/returning to school. In the 21st century it's the only way you'll make money as you get older. The middle class working man is a thing of the past for the most part. As discouraging as that may sound it's the truth. Find out what your interests are and what you think you may be good at, and take some classes or even go for a degree. You'll better yourself and society this way, and become a much happier person.

My personal advice: if you can save up money, travel. I spent 6 years as a full blown hiki, not leaving my house. After getting a part time job for 2 years as a cleaner, I saved up about 10'000 dollars. With this, I backpacked throughout Central and South East Asia and it opened my eyes to everything on the planet; good and bad. I learned not to take what I have in Canada for granted. The 10 year old children in India melting down old computer parts for pennies a day, inhaling harmful metals and toxins, have it much worse than any cleaner. In fact, they would do anything to be in your shoes.

Life is what YOU make it, nobody but yourself can direct you. Take the job, save money, go to school, find a better job, and enjoy the freedom. Yeah the daily grind sucks but every human endures it. You cant sit at home forever.

Just make the best of what you get. Show them you're a good worker and you may get more work hours, benefits, job securities. Be nice to your co-workers. Sure you probably wont m

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>>1321

Meh..it's just the work world. No matter what job you do, be it a cleaner or an astronaut, people will be out to get you. It's just how things go. Try your best to stay out of it, and if you get dragged into it, defend yourself.

You being fired is unfair but that happens all the time. If somebody sees you as a threat or just doesn't like the way you look, they're going to be a dick. At least it's another job experience to put on a resume, right?

I will mark this trial day as experience.
But i doubt very much that i can do this job for very long.

I keep on searching. There must be something else than being a cleaner.
I highly respect the people doing the job there (mostly because they don't have a real choice).
But it's just not for me. Before i get yelled and kicked out, i better not accept it.

Also the other cleaners said that my cleaning routine would be quite hard, because distance between buildings and because i am inexperienced.
Gotta work very fast and very hard to finish everything in about 4 hours.
Not to forget that i was bumming into the office rooms of the police people many times.
Quite awkwarded, because i am also the only male there.

Whatever, experience is experience.
There must be something else.
And to be honest, i'd rather handle around with dishes in a restaurant than with toilets...

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Suck it up dude. A pay cheque is a pay cheque, stop being picky. It's either this or you can spent the winter out on the streets begging for spare change. Your choice. Make the best of what they give you, it's not forever.

Employees usually pick on the new guy, usually in jest. But you shouldn't be expected to do everything perfectly and on time at the very beginning. You'll get better over time, pick up little tricks to speed things along, and become more efficient overall when you get the big picture down. Its just a routine, you'll pick it up naturally and become an expert within a month or two. I wouldn't quit unless you have another job lined up. I don't know how your economy is going in Germany now (I know it was shit for quite a while), but you have to choose between security and how much you like the work. You're working in a dead end job and likely won't get any other work that's not the same, so I wouldn't even bother with chasing higher paying jobs because the difference won't be that great and you never know how you'll work out at a new place.

i'd like to try ritalin/adderall. it seems to be quite beneficial. i've never heard of OTC codeine, what's it like? then again i'm an amerifag and, afaik, all narcotics are controlled substances.

Can't really get my hands on any good pills, nothing strong is available for sale over the counter here (need a doctors prescription) and even if they were I'd probably have a hard time asking for them. I don't really live in a culture where doctors easily give out prescriptions to someone my age (early twenties) either. There are some 'herbal' pills that do have a slight effect, I use them in situations where I can't afford to have trembling hands.

I can get my hands on kratom which is a mild (legal) sedative (opioid) and stimulant, but it's too expensive and I don't want to get addicted. Used it a few times though.

When I was 13-14 I used to crush up methylphenidate ("pure" Ritalin) capsules and snort them. It was a cheap, cocaine like high that I got wayy addicted too. Ended up doing amphetamines.

>>1284

OTC codeine is like any codeine. In certain countries, like here in Canada, you can get 8mg pills without a prescription, but they contain acetaminophen and caffeine in it, the latter of which makes it quite pointless.

>>587

That board isn't really a hiki board. It's got a few people that circle jerk all day, and a few randoms who post once or twice and never come back.

>>471

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head: the boards aren't set up for that.

The older phpBB board looks like it was created by some depressed 15-year-old anime fan who's lost interest in the board. They had mega-questionnaires and discussions about favorite anime characters. I go back there now and it's different people, a lot older. Not much traffic but much more serious. But the board doesn't look like it to the person checking it out.

The other board is getting better despite their ongoing asshattery here, but it still seems like a much less serious place.

I think it has something to do with the phpBB software. You can't read posts there like you can here with clicking on all sorts of shit. There's no scrolling along and reading.

My two cents.

Went on, opened a thread and saw two posters with their own pictures as an avatar, enough said.

I've forgotten how much I hate these boards, it's mostly full of attention seekers.

>>1287

Yeah, mostly. There are likely a few decent people. I think I would use the foe list function to block out the crap posters if I belonged to either of the other boards.

Just easier to post here for now.

>>1297
A good way is probably to ignore all those people that post their myspace/facebook styled pictures in the 'Post a photograph of yourself' threads...

22 years and living at home is normal. It only becomes a problem if you're NOT in university. Trust me, plenty of people live at home well into their 20s, it's not bad or anything.

>>1286
>if you're NOT in university
[cough]

>>1286
or if you're unemployed/underemployed

I'm 18 and never had a job ç_ç

>>1292

Heh, my sister is 19 and hasn't worked, and still lives at home.

This isn't 1950 where you're obligated to move out before you're 20. Yeah if you're 23 and sit at home all day, in your room, fapping to loli and posting on 4chan, then something is wrong. You're obviously not socially developed as a normal person that age. But whatever, if you can find a job or school to get into, it's fine.

I'm really looking forward to Final Fantasy XIV coming early next year

>>702
The good recommendation is don't start playing them, because as a hikki there is a good chance you'll get addicted to it and have no reason to go out ever again.

The first mmo I played online was runescape, lol,but I got a little bored with it, more it wasted a lot my time but the game is pretty good and unique when you are able to pretty much everything as you would in a medieval society, like fishing, crafting, etc.
Next was ROSE online that was real fun to play simply b/c I was playing it with friends until they made it P2P. Though they have changed it back to F2P.
Next, Flyff, I got bored of the constant grinding, slow leveling and repeating to kill same monster for quest which were mostly bland.Also I was basically alone through most the time, so that's why. My sis still plays it, shes rich now, mostly thanks to me and stuff I bought for real $ and lvl 99 from powerleveling b/c she a cleric.
Next was rappelz
then recently a few month back I played perfect world, 2moons which was getting a lot of bad feedback from players due to hackers, and then Cabal online which looked real cool but as I moved out and had an old laptop so I can't play as well.
Once I'm in a better situation with a better PC I will start playing again. AION online looks real interesting though it's P2P.
If you like giant robots and 1st person shooters then you should really check out exteel.com
Here's a link for a list of F2P and P2P games available out there, and it's huge
http://play-free-online-games.com/games/games_all.html

I have played:

-Anarchy online (The only one I left with a positive opinion of. It was awesome and actually intelligent, but 16 hour days of it constantly reminded me of how much of a failure I am).
-Runescape (Have 250m sitting on an inactive lvl 94 account)
-Maplestory (Also JMS) (Eventually got bored and hacked to level 95 DK; b&)
-FlyFF(also FlyFF JP) (Level 53 assist and 47 merc)
-SilkRoad Online (Only got to level 16. Boring grind)
-WoW private servers
-Dungeon Runners (Level 40 something I think, got bored)
-Gunbound (I was pretty good with kal, only got to silver battleaxe though)
-Warrock (I loved messing around in planes mainly)
-Pirate King Online (Played for a week or so, got bored. Generic.)
-Mabinogi (same thing)
-Second Life (I built a pretty cool flying xwing model but had no Lindens and nowhere to sell it)
-Regnum online (Quit within a few hours)

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>>1203
>-Anarchy online (The only one I left with a positive opinion of. It was awesome and actually intelligent, but 16 hour days of it constantly reminded me of how much of a failure I am).

Oh man, so true. The game is amazing and indeed highly intelligent, but becomes an addiction worse than crack.

try harder to get a job, it'll be IMPOSSIBLE later.

>>859
Yep. Same.

>>859
"Kill yourself when you get "that chance", life only gets worse each day."

:D its...true...

>>>stay in school you fool.Thats what i would say,i mean here in my country there is 500 thousand people unemployed,how the fuck will i get the job?!?I have no high school education,and so many people being jobless,there is a little chance for me gettin a job.btw did you miss me?:D

- Read "Happiness: A Guide to Developing Life's Most Important skill" as soon as you possibly can.
- Don't drink alone
- Stay in school

>>1281
where do you live? in the U.S, assuming 10% is extrapolated to 100% of the population (about 290 million), that makes 29 million unemployed. now, only about 40% of a population needs to work. so that means over 15million who need work are unemployed. rough rough numbers i'm using, but for all i know you live in eastern europe. which must suck.

Name/Alias: Jon
Age: 28
Sex: M
Location: Washington

Information:

Music Preference: none. i've never enjoyed music. it's all just background noise to me.
Movies/Films: same as music.
Books: Pale Blue Dot, House of Leaves.
Anime/Manga: never seen/read any.
Pets: none
Family: no close relatives. i'm living off inheritance.

Questions

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>>1244
How long do you think you'll be able to continue living off that inheritance? What are you going to do when you run out of money.

Name/Alias: Greenthorne
Age: 28
Sex: Male
Location: Connecticut, USA

Information:

Music Preference: New Age, Dance, Classic Rock
Movies/Films: I enjoy Documentaries, Classic Films, and Moral Horror.
Books: Working my way through the Discworld series of books.
Anime/Manga: Near-Future Scifi, Absurdist Comedy
Pets: A Leopard Gecko
Family: 2 Parents, 3 Grandparents, 4 Aunts and Uncles, 4 Cousins, and a Brother.

Questions

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Name/Alias:roy mustang
Age:20
Sex:m
Location:northern minnesota

Information:

Music Preference:love techno, like a lot of music (hollywood undead, medic droid, tatu, basshunter etc.) not really into hard screamo or eminem kind of rap.
Movies/Films:gore, romance, comedy, anything actually good.
Books:
Anime/Manga:fma, maburaho, k-on, code geass
Pets:i want a kitty..
Family:moved away from a family of 5(including me) now just live with my two alcoholic roommates.

Questions

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Name/Alias: Mark
Age: 21
Sex: Male
Location: Mexico


Music Preference: Progressive rock, Punk, Avant-Garde, Jazz, among others
Movies/Films: Pulp Fiction, Waking Life, Clockwork Orange, Alice.
Books: Brave new world, The Unbearable Lightness of Being, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
Anime/Manga: Serial Experiments Lain, Paranoia Agent, FLCL, Evangelion.
Pets: None
Family: A normal loving family XD.

Questions
Summarize yourself/your personality:

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>>1270
this would own.

I don't envy the poor sod who would have to play enforcer. Trying to motivate a band of us lot to do certain simple things we don't care about would not be fun. Or would be the greatest fun ever. Huh.

Just have to hope one of us just happens to be an obsessive, anti-germ, cleaning-maniac.

the more i think about it, how it would work on a practical level, the less i try to think about it

Maybe if the house had like a bunch of rooms so we could all just nest and only communicate through the internet. IF there was 6 of us and the house was 150000$ then wed each have to pay 25000

You know this is actually a real good idea, so long as everybody contributed money.

You could get a cheap ass house, turn it into a communal boarding type thing, and fit quite a few of us in there. Imagine how fucking awesome that would be?

>>403

how the fuck did that advance the discussion?!? thanks for all the detail

Ha, indeed.

>Something happened at some point in some place in front of some people. It might've lead to something else. I don't know, I'd muse on it further but if I do then something else might happen.

Nice. I like it. Not every single post has to be exactly perfect and solidly on topic. Some people here tend to delete many of their posts if they think there's a problem. I do wonder just how many pages this board'd be on if we couldn't delete...

I think that might've been a little patronising/condescending somewhere. Wasn't meant that way.

I can't stand embarrassment, but I don't know if I have a real phobia. I don't mind embarrassment in media so much, what's bad for me is when something in media reminds me of an embarrassing thing I did or said. It doesn't even have to be something in media, I could just think about something related to an embarrassing moment and it will remind me, making me upset. And when I say "upset", I mean feeling like I have to restrain myself from ripping my hair out and screaming.

The more I talk or act in a social situation, the more likely I am to say something very dumb or do something awkward/dumb/embarrassing. Fresh memories to hate myself over when I'm alone, yay!

Has anyone tried to explain the embarrassment to people? It seems like at best people would just trivialize how it feels and bark orders like "don't worry about it" or "you just gotta get over it".

>>1242
I've tried to explain. The response was that everyone has this problem sometimes. Then when I try to explain how bad it really is for me they usually assume I'm exaggerating. It is very hard for people to understand feelings they do not have themselves.

I dont avoid it, but I wonder why I feel a little unconfortable watching embarassing stuff of other people

>>1247

Yeah, they probably only want exciting stuff, like "I'm having a crisis of faith" or "I'm 12 and I'm oddly attracted to you, Father Murphy and I get funny feelings *down there*"

Heh.

I'm a bit miffed about the anti-religion tone around here. Well, I guess that's a bit slanted, since I respect my local priests and serve the church myself, so I have my faith in them and the rest of the church.

>>1260

OP here. That's a fair criticism, and I apologise. In actuality, I think this points more to an area where they need training rather than being representative of a blanket policy of the church.

Or in my case, very boring confessions.

>>1260
humanity is moving forward without you, is all. why do you trust your church leaders? how well do you really know them? do you understand the business side of church?

>>1268
Hmm... careful there. Seems to me that faith, religion and "the church" are three very, *very* different things.
They're not really meant to be, but hey you get what you pay for.

(not 1260)

i've had jobs for 2wks, if that helps. i quit because i was lied to (sales), but have quit normal jobs under 2mos due to anxiety.

>>1255

Most people under 30 work a maximum of 2 years at a job. Four months is a respectable showing.

Why did you quit?

>>1257

This was a little disjointed sounding. I meant, 4 months is a pretty good showing, everything considered. How come you decided to leave?

Basically the fear of dropping a tray with drinks and food, showing myself as an authority figure and not having the guts to give out orders, dealing with childish waiters/waitresses, dealing with demanding customers, dealing with unsatisfied customers, dealing with customers victims of wrong orders, dealing with huge tables, not being able to show true interest in my clients, having to smile when I am fucking depressed inside, the list goes on.

>>1264

Oh, I remember you now. I'm impressed, I wouldn't have lasted a day doing that sort of work.

>>801
Wear a hat or something. Seriously, even if people look at you, they'll probably be staring at your hat. It's like you strike first, maybe even give you some confidence for wearing it.

look for 24 hour supercenters. that, or a Seven Eleven or gas station for food supply. Both of these places you can go to at night.

>>801

Wear headphones when you go in the store and block everybody out.

>>1246
I did that once, when suddenly some little brat appeared out of nowhere in front of my feet and I accidentally kicked him (not hard, but with enough strength for him to fall down) and he started crying. I mumbled an apology and quickly walked further (his mother was there). Afterwards I went to the cash register furthest away from the spot where it happened because I was worried the cashier would say something about it.

>>781
UGGHHH MOD PLEASE DELETE THAT PICTURE.... I get too hungry every time I scroll past it :) I gotta browse with pix disabled again...

>>1217

I know I'm risking a long answer, but how come you don't use a tripcode? I mean, you have use it consistently or it's pointless, but I remember some people on the old board used them.

>>1224

It defeats the point of anonymous boards IMO and it just adds ammo to those Hikikomoris who already call me a namefag.

I don't really care much for this naming stuff.

The way I see it, the point is that a person is spamming. It's not really important what name he uses.

Sometimes the name is even used as a poor-man's way of shifting the blame to another person as is the case with the posts.

>>1227

Actually, I like it when people use names when they post frequently, or when they make meaningful posts. It makes the conversational thread less confusing. Especially on a forum where people sometimes delete their posts, making a reference to a post number pointless. It's also good to have a name to associate with posts I like.

Even so, I like the option to post anonymously, whether or not I use it. It's a fresh start, a clean sheet of paper.

For example, after writing this, someone will bitch about me posting here. Another will meticulously tell me how wrong my opinion is, point by point, and explain how I'm hopelessly naïve, ill-informed, and unintelligent. Another will scream at me for expressing an opinion in the first place and wasting their time.

If I'm anonymous, I feel like I have a chance to post again. Maybe not immediately, but in a few days, after I've recovered from having people here remind me that, yes, I'm their intellectual inferior, and worse than stepped-in dogshit.

Without a name, I can pretend I'm someone new. I can hope that I can make a post without getting screamed at or ignored because of my last post. Instead, people will evaluate my new post on its individual lack of merit and redeeming qualities.

Maybe.

>>1230
wow thats deep man

>>1224

You can usually tell when the real Foolness posts anyway.

I had a friend I used to know many years ago. We bought some LSD (sugar cubes) one night. Ended up being PCP. I said I didn't want to take it because it didn't smell right. My friend said whatever, ate about 5 of them and killed himself 2 hours later. Turns out they had quite a large dose of PCP soaked into each cube, and he crashed a car off a 100 foot highway bridge.

I like vodka strait on ice, and I only drink at 2 specific times, when I'm celebrating something, or when I'm hit with something to make my shit-filled depressed life, even more depressed.

It's only a crutch when you wake up and need something, that's addiction. Oddly, I'm similar to smoking, I've been smoking for 5 years, and I'm not addicted. I can put a cigarette down or not smoke for a while if I'm asked not to etc.

but if you tell me not to smoke/drink when you've given me bad news, fuck you, I'm smoking/drinking anyway. THAT sort of a thing offends me...When someone hits me with a bunch of bullshit that they know damn well will make me stressed, and then the same person tells me not to smoke/drink.

>>1219

Everyone has some vices. I get tired of the "ban this and save lives" crowd...everyone dies of something.

Life can be fucking mean, yet some people would take every single pleasure from us. I don't know if it's a sense of misplaced morality, malign paternalism, or if they're just fucking assholes. My body, my choices, damn it.

I don't actually do any drugs (no tobacco, alcohol, weed, other shit), but I do other shit that's apparently bad for me, like watching TV, playing video games, looking at porn, eating, breathing...fuck 'em.

>>1219
I'd like to buy hard liquor more often. But here you can only buy it in liquor stores (supermarket only has beer and wine) and I always think everyone will think I'm some kind of alcoholic if I go in there and buy a bottle.

>>1223

In my old state, we had drive-through beer and wine stores.

/facepalm

>>851

So long as you have a shortwave radio, and a nice antenna (look up longwire antennas, cheap and easy) you can pick up signals from around the world.

find out about HAM Radio

>>855

Yes, ham radio sounds cool. I think they even did away with the Morse code requirements on the base license now, not that it would kill me to learn it.

>>633

I'd personally feel a lot better about myself, and I'd be able to socially function better. I'm very strongly a night person.

Nighttime is nice, but if you stay in the dark too long you'll develop vitamin D deficiency. So eat fatty fish, it contains vitamin D. Depending on where you live it may also be found in milk/yoghurt/bread (artificially added).

About one year ago i actually went to university (out of pressure).
Enrolled for physics, but i am really too dumb for it. When hearing the lectures i had no problem, because with over 400 students it gave you an anoynmous feeling.
But there were the actual classcourses with about 20 students each class.

I felt so akwarded, especially cause i am not really into the subject. That was really painfull. Therefore after only 4 months i stopped going to any lectures and courses.

>>1151

Sounds like me, easier to deal with a large group sometimes than a small one. Physics isn't exactly a cakewalk, took a while to wrap my head around it. Some schools offer free tutoring, something to consider if you end up trying it again.

Germany -- do you still have mandatory military service there?

college isn't too bad. you'll see tons of people everyday, but 99% won't talk to you. just stick to getting your work done first and foremost. most of your core req classes will be so big that any sort of group work or presentations aren't practical and thus aren't required.

the alternative, moving out, is much much worse. you'll have to get a job, deal with workplace politics, and all sorts of nerve-wracking childsplay. the people you knew in high school are the people you'll meet in the workforce. at least with college you'll be graded on your performance and not your social skills. perhaps by the time you finish college your social skills will have improved.

also, EEs are having a shit time in the job market. try a different field. if you have the math skills for that, there's plenty else you could do. perhaps make a virus to wipe out mankind?

>>1159

Or his abilities might even be good enough he can dispense with the social niceties.

When people need what you do, they're better about tolerating different behaviors (you know you've made it when it goes from "fucking weirdo" to "charmingly eccentric").

Of course, I'm not speaking from personal experience on this one...

>>1189
if i was a multi-millionaire i wouldn't be a creep, you know? i'd be a respectable venture capitalist.

I generally wear clothes. While I may not go outside at all, I insist on dressing well and in style, for whatever reason it may be. Sometimes I'll lounge around in pyjamas if I'm sick or hungover.

probably 70% of the time

I dont even own pyjamas. I sleep in boxers or my normal clothes

>>1195

Not a damned thing. I live alone, no one sees me, why get clothes dirty? Much more convenient. I'll wear a pair of panties when I'm on my period, but otherwise, it's tits out.

i haven't owned pajamas since grade school

>>1209
pics or it didn't happen